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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://bitsandbobbins.com/2007/07/20/sf-fashion-week-why-sf-fashion-will-remain-second-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-24702</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe lesser-known designers or those just starting out could finagle invites for a blogger or two, as they would benefit greatly from the exposure bloggers could bring them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe lesser-known designers or those just starting out could finagle invites for a blogger or two, as they would benefit greatly from the exposure bloggers could bring them.</p>
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		<title>By: final fashion &#187; click break</title>
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		<dc:creator>final fashion &#187; click break</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] San Francisco Fashion Week turns those pesky fashion bloggers away, ensuring that the world will never know what sort of fashion comes from San Francisco.Â  It occurs to me that bloggers may be the best thing to ever happen to second tier fashion weeks - after all, what other media with any international audience actually go to local fashion weeks?Â  Exactly!Â  Except in San Francisco, which is ironic considering what a techy city it is.Â  Not to mention the high caliber of San Francisco fashion bloggers, including Verbal Croquis, Bits &amp; Bobbins, and The Coveted. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] San Francisco Fashion Week turns those pesky fashion bloggers away, ensuring that the world will never know what sort of fashion comes from San Francisco.Â  It occurs to me that bloggers may be the best thing to ever happen to second tier fashion weeks &#8211; after all, what other media with any international audience actually go to local fashion weeks?Â  Exactly!Â  Except in San Francisco, which is ironic considering what a techy city it is.Â  Not to mention the high caliber of San Francisco fashion bloggers, including Verbal Croquis, Bits &amp; Bobbins, and The Coveted. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PR COUTURE &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fashion Bloggers Denied Press Passes at SF Fashion Week</title>
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		<dc:creator>PR COUTURE &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fashion Bloggers Denied Press Passes at SF Fashion Week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] First of all, I want to say thank you for all of your support and intelligent, well-pointed comments. A special thanks to Bit and Bobbins (for taking a break from her blogging vacation) and Manolo&#8217;s Shoe Blog for posting about SF Fashion Week&#8217;s decision not to include Bloggers as &#8216;accredited members of the journalism community.&#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] First of all, I want to say thank you for all of your support and intelligent, well-pointed comments. A special thanks to Bit and Bobbins (for taking a break from her blogging vacation) and Manolo&#8217;s Shoe Blog for posting about SF Fashion Week&#8217;s decision not to include Bloggers as &#8216;accredited members of the journalism community.&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tricia</title>
		<link>http://bitsandbobbins.com/2007/07/20/sf-fashion-week-why-sf-fashion-will-remain-second-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-24488</link>
		<dc:creator>tricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swan diamond rose:  i guess one has to kill trees to be &quot;legitimate&quot;!  ridiculous.  i just saw an article in &quot;wired&quot; as i was reading over the husband&#039;s shoulder, talking about how newspapers were losing readers and ad revenue.  HELLO, jerkwads!?  they are reading the INTERNET.  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swan diamond rose:  i guess one has to kill trees to be &#8220;legitimate&#8221;!  ridiculous.  i just saw an article in &#8220;wired&#8221; as i was reading over the husband&#8217;s shoulder, talking about how newspapers were losing readers and ad revenue.  HELLO, jerkwads!?  they are reading the INTERNET.  <img src='http://bitsandbobbins.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SwanDiamondRose</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwanDiamondRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this isn&#039;t exactly the same thing. but it is about which &quot;press&quot;is considered legitimate. when bands want to  get visas for the states [coming from canada] blog press isn&#039;t considered press, only &quot;hard&quot; press. and that&#039;s what they call it. if it&#039;s not on paper it doesn&#039;t count! lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this isn&#8217;t exactly the same thing. but it is about which &#8220;press&#8221;is considered legitimate. when bands want to  get visas for the states [coming from canada] blog press isn&#8217;t considered press, only &#8220;hard&#8221; press. and that&#8217;s what they call it. if it&#8217;s not on paper it doesn&#8217;t count! lame.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You had it at &quot; ... because you run the risk of alienating a core group of aesthetes who hold an increasingly large amount of power.&quot; - the organisers of SF Fashion Week seem to be doing the it&#039;s-my-ball-and-I&#039;m-taking-it-home thing - cos it&#039;s hard when you&#039;ve had the pow-ah to let it go ... as to the rest of the fashion industry - well, there&#039;s always a place for those who need someone to tell them something is fabulous, while the rest of us are increasingly making our own minds up (and quite often asking some uncomfortable questions about the industry at the same time). 

V. interesting post and comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had it at &#8221; &#8230; because you run the risk of alienating a core group of aesthetes who hold an increasingly large amount of power.&#8221; &#8211; the organisers of SF Fashion Week seem to be doing the it&#8217;s-my-ball-and-I&#8217;m-taking-it-home thing &#8211; cos it&#8217;s hard when you&#8217;ve had the pow-ah to let it go &#8230; as to the rest of the fashion industry &#8211; well, there&#8217;s always a place for those who need someone to tell them something is fabulous, while the rest of us are increasingly making our own minds up (and quite often asking some uncomfortable questions about the industry at the same time). </p>
<p>V. interesting post and comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Annika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, online media is still miles behind its print and television counterparts. Before I had a baby (and still a bit since) I wrote for a horror magazine online. Horror movies, as you know, are not exactly huge - you will never hear of a horror movie making $100 million opening weekend, and even a quarter of that is rare. However, for some reason studios think they can ignore the genre&#039;s media counterpart: internet reviewers. There were so many occasions when I would have to ask for an invite to an event where internet media should have been the TOP priority, and many movies that I was not able to get into press screenings for. In several cases my saving grace was the filmmakers themselves, who often &#039;get&#039; it and would get my name onto the list. (There was one studio that was a huge exception, and I feel I should mention them: Lions Gate always went above and beyond to make sure we had access to everything we could want. They realized that online buzz was the reason SAW was so successful, and held screenings exclusively for internet media before SAW II. So I exclude them from this rant, even though the SAW movies kind of suck.)

I think fashion is similar in its absurd insistence that traditional media is the only media. I wouldn&#039;t even call it elitism, exactly, so much as complete lack of understanding of the new directions media is moving in. It is extremely unfortunate and I am hopeful, if not exactly optimistic, that the powers that be will figure out sooner than later that the times, they are a-changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, online media is still miles behind its print and television counterparts. Before I had a baby (and still a bit since) I wrote for a horror magazine online. Horror movies, as you know, are not exactly huge &#8211; you will never hear of a horror movie making $100 million opening weekend, and even a quarter of that is rare. However, for some reason studios think they can ignore the genre&#8217;s media counterpart: internet reviewers. There were so many occasions when I would have to ask for an invite to an event where internet media should have been the TOP priority, and many movies that I was not able to get into press screenings for. In several cases my saving grace was the filmmakers themselves, who often &#8216;get&#8217; it and would get my name onto the list. (There was one studio that was a huge exception, and I feel I should mention them: Lions Gate always went above and beyond to make sure we had access to everything we could want. They realized that online buzz was the reason SAW was so successful, and held screenings exclusively for internet media before SAW II. So I exclude them from this rant, even though the SAW movies kind of suck.)</p>
<p>I think fashion is similar in its absurd insistence that traditional media is the only media. I wouldn&#8217;t even call it elitism, exactly, so much as complete lack of understanding of the new directions media is moving in. It is extremely unfortunate and I am hopeful, if not exactly optimistic, that the powers that be will figure out sooner than later that the times, they are a-changing.</p>
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		<title>By: tricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>tricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>annie:  you&#039;d think so, right...especially in a technologically savvy city like SF, but it simply isn&#039;t the case.  their old fashioned attitudes about fashion keep them defiantly behind the times.  if san francisco wants to be the city they aspire to be (new york *cough, cough!*) then they should take a lesson from NY fashion week and it&#039;s organizers, who took the time to root out intelligent bloggers and treat them with the respect they deserve by including them in the &quot;press&quot; for the event.

i&#039;m not suggesting that every blogger who asks be accepted as part of the press for an event...no.  but i do believe that the people organizing these events are doing themselves and their clients a disservice by not rooting out and treating talented fashion writers/bloggers with the same amount of respect that they give to the so-called &quot;legitimate&quot; or &quot;accredited&quot; press...because blogging is just another form of media, albeit new, and to their chagrin, more accessible.

again, it just smacks of ignorance, elitism, and short-sightedness...and if everyone involved with the SFFW event is of this same philosophy, the san francisco fashion scene will always remain second-rate, if not lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>annie:  you&#8217;d think so, right&#8230;especially in a technologically savvy city like SF, but it simply isn&#8217;t the case.  their old fashioned attitudes about fashion keep them defiantly behind the times.  if san francisco wants to be the city they aspire to be (new york *cough, cough!*) then they should take a lesson from NY fashion week and it&#8217;s organizers, who took the time to root out intelligent bloggers and treat them with the respect they deserve by including them in the &#8220;press&#8221; for the event.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not suggesting that every blogger who asks be accepted as part of the press for an event&#8230;no.  but i do believe that the people organizing these events are doing themselves and their clients a disservice by not rooting out and treating talented fashion writers/bloggers with the same amount of respect that they give to the so-called &#8220;legitimate&#8221; or &#8220;accredited&#8221; press&#8230;because blogging is just another form of media, albeit new, and to their chagrin, more accessible.</p>
<p>again, it just smacks of ignorance, elitism, and short-sightedness&#8230;and if everyone involved with the SFFW event is of this same philosophy, the san francisco fashion scene will always remain second-rate, if not lower.</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeahit doesnt feel like theres much buzz about sf fashion week in the first place. i think bloggers can really generate interest quickly. i&#039;m pretty surprised they dont allow bloggers because blogging is definitely very &quot;now&quot; but i guess old fashioned attitudes still prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeahit doesnt feel like theres much buzz about sf fashion week in the first place. i think bloggers can really generate interest quickly. i&#8217;m pretty surprised they dont allow bloggers because blogging is definitely very &#8220;now&#8221; but i guess old fashioned attitudes still prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: jennine from the coveted</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennine from the coveted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, thanks for all your support. it&#039;s really important that we discuss this, because times, they are changing, and it&#039;s good to voice your opinion, because only then will you be heard.

i hope that sf fashion week will change their minds about the legitimacy of blogging, because though it is true that anyone can be a blogger, not just anyone can create a blog that people enjoy reading. (**ahem** bits and bobbins)

and thank you again, this isn&#039;t quite over yet.
: )
-jennine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, thanks for all your support. it&#8217;s really important that we discuss this, because times, they are changing, and it&#8217;s good to voice your opinion, because only then will you be heard.</p>
<p>i hope that sf fashion week will change their minds about the legitimacy of blogging, because though it is true that anyone can be a blogger, not just anyone can create a blog that people enjoy reading. (**ahem** bits and bobbins)</p>
<p>and thank you again, this isn&#8217;t quite over yet.<br />
: )<br />
-jennine</p>
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