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		<title>By: Tally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO wear what you feel like and express your personal style while doing it
DON&#039;T follow a dumb program on E! to get your fashion advice, it&#039;s just brainwashing to get you to buy the stuff on the adverts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO wear what you feel like and express your personal style while doing it<br />
DON&#8217;T follow a dumb program on E! to get your fashion advice, it&#8217;s just brainwashing to get you to buy the stuff on the adverts</p>
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		<title>By: tressie</title>
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		<dc:creator>tressie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is funny is that the Don&#039;ts creep into High Fashion......Um, Punk Couture ??? I just love how Karl Lagerfeld has co-opted anti-fashion.....and that creepy cretin...Marc Jacobs.....doing Grunge as High Fashion....and oh so many more.Oh, ya just gotta laugh....at them without a clue to authenticity.....or the ability to actually say &quot;I Stole This Look From You !!&quot;. But no child should be dressing like a cheap hooker...or an expensive one...that is sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is funny is that the Don&#8217;ts creep into High Fashion&#8230;&#8230;Um, Punk Couture ??? I just love how Karl Lagerfeld has co-opted anti-fashion&#8230;..and that creepy cretin&#8230;Marc Jacobs&#8230;..doing Grunge as High Fashion&#8230;.and oh so many more.Oh, ya just gotta laugh&#8230;.at them without a clue to authenticity&#8230;..or the ability to actually say &#8220;I Stole This Look From You !!&#8221;. But no child should be dressing like a cheap hooker&#8230;or an expensive one&#8230;that is sick.</p>
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		<title>By: kiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always ask myself the same about food. Who actually decides what IÂ´ll mix on my sandwich?   If my taste buds tell me I can mix certain things and they taste great to me, then I will mix them and no food expert can convince me  that I should mix things differently.  Your taste buds are yours alone, and mine are mine alone. Only I know what tastes good  in my mouth. No &quot;expert&quot; can tell me that.
Same with my clothes. I can get inspiration from people and even read books and fashion mags. But I make the call at the end of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always ask myself the same about food. Who actually decides what IÂ´ll mix on my sandwich?   If my taste buds tell me I can mix certain things and they taste great to me, then I will mix them and no food expert can convince me  that I should mix things differently.  Your taste buds are yours alone, and mine are mine alone. Only I know what tastes good  in my mouth. No &#8220;expert&#8221; can tell me that.<br />
Same with my clothes. I can get inspiration from people and even read books and fashion mags. But I make the call at the end of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: :: changing of the seasons :: &#171; elegant musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>:: changing of the seasons :: &#171; elegant musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#9829;&nbsp;ah-yiâ€™s utterly inspiring blog &#9829;&nbsp;a clever idea for hanging vases! &#9829;&nbsp;Triciaâ€™s thoughtful post on fashionâ€™s doâ€™s and donâ€™t&#8217;s &#9829;&nbsp;an utterly feminine, inspring little nook &#9829;&nbsp;colorful clothes from gudren sjÃ¶dÃ©n [ via ] &#9829;&nbsp;a great article on design &#9829;&nbsp;check out these beautiful spaces featured on Poppytalk here &amp; also here &#9829;&nbsp;fairytale-like photos &#9829;&nbsp;beautiful, artistic embroidery [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always thought the only fashion don&#039;t is &quot;don&#039;t write a dos and don&#039;t list&quot;. :)  I suspect if one were to read those lists for a bit, one would start seeing the exact same &quot;dos&quot; on the &quot;don&#039;t&quot; list and vice versa.  I also love the &quot;in and out lists&quot; which seem so arbitrary like &quot;fruit is OUT and robots are IN&quot; (I&#039;m actually not making that one up.... it was so ridiculous as to stick out).

On a historical note, do you think these dos and don&#039;t lists are a spin-off from the &quot;Why Don&#039;t You....&quot; lists that Diana Vreeland put together for Harper&#039;s Bazaar?  They were usually very positive if sometimes totally impractical but given her persona, would have been more about getting ideas flowing than ensuring conformity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought the only fashion don&#8217;t is &#8220;don&#8217;t write a dos and don&#8217;t list&#8221;. <img src='http://bitsandbobbins.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I suspect if one were to read those lists for a bit, one would start seeing the exact same &#8220;dos&#8221; on the &#8220;don&#8217;t&#8221; list and vice versa.  I also love the &#8220;in and out lists&#8221; which seem so arbitrary like &#8220;fruit is OUT and robots are IN&#8221; (I&#8217;m actually not making that one up&#8230;. it was so ridiculous as to stick out).</p>
<p>On a historical note, do you think these dos and don&#8217;t lists are a spin-off from the &#8220;Why Don&#8217;t You&#8230;.&#8221; lists that Diana Vreeland put together for Harper&#8217;s Bazaar?  They were usually very positive if sometimes totally impractical but given her persona, would have been more about getting ideas flowing than ensuring conformity.</p>
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		<title>By: vasiliisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>vasiliisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I once heard the opinions of a lady who claimed that aesthetics aren&#039;t relative, but to a large extent cultural and shared, and thus should be seen (and followed/respected) much like usage and customs. I don&#039;t agree - but there&#039;s some food for thought re. why people get so worked up when more common aesthetics are challenged. 

As to your question - do people appreciate the ability to not have to think for themselves? - yes, some people do. I have met plenty of people who are terribly insecure about anything that counts as &quot;visual&quot;. I personally think it&#039;s fine and dandy that people who don&#039;t want to think for themselves don&#039;t have to. Just like everyone doesn&#039;t enjoy cooking or whatever. However, I do think negativity isn&#039;t helpful to anyone so this way of putting the &quot;advice&quot; is just bunch of crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I once heard the opinions of a lady who claimed that aesthetics aren&#8217;t relative, but to a large extent cultural and shared, and thus should be seen (and followed/respected) much like usage and customs. I don&#8217;t agree &#8211; but there&#8217;s some food for thought re. why people get so worked up when more common aesthetics are challenged. </p>
<p>As to your question &#8211; do people appreciate the ability to not have to think for themselves? &#8211; yes, some people do. I have met plenty of people who are terribly insecure about anything that counts as &#8220;visual&#8221;. I personally think it&#8217;s fine and dandy that people who don&#8217;t want to think for themselves don&#8217;t have to. Just like everyone doesn&#8217;t enjoy cooking or whatever. However, I do think negativity isn&#8217;t helpful to anyone so this way of putting the &#8220;advice&#8221; is just bunch of crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally someone said it. I really get uncomfortable whenever I see magazines with pages and pages dedicated to the red carpet&#039;s judgment - and, as you noticed, the majority of them exclusively focused on mistakes made by risk taken people. There&#039;s got to be something else more interesting than that about fashion. I am brazilian, and I can tell things here are even worse. We are since childhood educated to be uniformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally someone said it. I really get uncomfortable whenever I see magazines with pages and pages dedicated to the red carpet&#8217;s judgment &#8211; and, as you noticed, the majority of them exclusively focused on mistakes made by risk taken people. There&#8217;s got to be something else more interesting than that about fashion. I am brazilian, and I can tell things here are even worse. We are since childhood educated to be uniformed.</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you&#039;re right. i&#039;ve always disliked these lists, they just relieve people of thinking for themselves. it&#039;s sad that many people still need others to tell them what to do and that they are SO afraid of making mistakes fashion-wise. i&#039;m always surprised how many people still have these &quot;fashion rules&quot; in their heads. i&#039;m sometimes confronted with sentences such as &quot;that doesn&#039;t go together.&quot; and when i ask people why, they don&#039;t even have an answer - they just think it&#039;s impossible because someone has told them so. it&#039;s terrible. basically, i think what they consider &quot;dos&quot; are normal things, things that have always been seen as &quot;okay&quot; such as suits or those pearls you mentioned. however, these items can never look different when not being combined with unusual pieces. this style can be classy and &quot;nice&quot;, but never outstanding or creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you&#8217;re right. i&#8217;ve always disliked these lists, they just relieve people of thinking for themselves. it&#8217;s sad that many people still need others to tell them what to do and that they are SO afraid of making mistakes fashion-wise. i&#8217;m always surprised how many people still have these &#8220;fashion rules&#8221; in their heads. i&#8217;m sometimes confronted with sentences such as &#8220;that doesn&#8217;t go together.&#8221; and when i ask people why, they don&#8217;t even have an answer &#8211; they just think it&#8217;s impossible because someone has told them so. it&#8217;s terrible. basically, i think what they consider &#8220;dos&#8221; are normal things, things that have always been seen as &#8220;okay&#8221; such as suits or those pearls you mentioned. however, these items can never look different when not being combined with unusual pieces. this style can be classy and &#8220;nice&#8221;, but never outstanding or creative.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about this since yesterday ... I wasn&#039;t going to comment because I didn&#039;t feel like I had anything new to add, but seeing as it&#039;s still in my head, I figured I may as well.

I agree that I think the fear stems from early teen years for women, a time when girls are hitting puberty and bodies start to change and the pressure to not change ( or to ALL change - either way, to be uniform) really hits. People may not say, &quot;oh, she has boobs, she&#039;s a weirdo,&quot; but if you&#039;re the first girl to develop breasts in your class (or the last), you stand out - and it&#039;s not an age where you want to stand out. So I think fashion becomes a way of asserting some control over that which you have no control - your appearance - and a way of &quot;fitting in&quot; even when you don&#039;t feel like you do internally. Of course, this is also a time when teens are really starting to discover and assert their own identities, and there&#039;s a lot of pressures about being (or merely appearing) too different.

I feel like the media has discovered that these fears can be turned to profitable advantage. Do we blame the artists who churn out new or recycled designs twice a year? Do we blame mags that try to create a digestible statement about them? 

I don&#039;t know. But here&#039;s something I DO know about these pressures and this constantly changing list of fashion: I think it is designed to get us to spend money. I used to work in a women&#039;s chain boutique, and we changed our clothing every month. I paid attention and I started noticing things. Not only did the chain change its base every month from a cool-tone to a warm-tone (ie: January might be black with red and tan accents, but then February would be navy/blue/purple, March was always chocolate brown with bright pinks and peaches), necessitating the purchase of new basic suiting separates in order to pair them with the pretty blouses and print dresses (month-to-month the colours kind of clashed), but there was actually an annual pattern to the colour scheme. Knowing this in advance, I used to hit thrift stores to stay ahead of the curve (since, if we didn&#039;t actually wear &quot;the brand,&quot; we had to look like we were) without purchasing this expensive stuff. I always felt bad for women who bought navy suits in Feb only to find that in March, they couldn&#039;t find very many options for constructing outfits unless they bought a new suit in the right shade of chocolate brown. Granted, the clients had the budget for it and didn&#039;t blink an eye, but I kept wondering, if these clothes hold up for so many years, why do you have to buy so many new pieces every month?

this is why I couldn&#039;t do retail, long-term. I hated being a part of an industry that played on insecurity like this, and that convinced people to buy things they didn&#039;t need. I think DO and DON&#039;T lists function the same way. I often wonder, is there a connection between what is on the DO list and who advertises in the magazine? Is there a kick-back?

As for me, my only DON&#039;T&#039;s are DON&#039;T buy a colour that makes you look sick, DON&#039;T buy a silhouette that you are uncomfortable with, and DON&#039;T buy it just because it&#039;s on sale unless you&#039;re actually going to enjoy wearing it, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this since yesterday &#8230; I wasn&#8217;t going to comment because I didn&#8217;t feel like I had anything new to add, but seeing as it&#8217;s still in my head, I figured I may as well.</p>
<p>I agree that I think the fear stems from early teen years for women, a time when girls are hitting puberty and bodies start to change and the pressure to not change ( or to ALL change &#8211; either way, to be uniform) really hits. People may not say, &#8220;oh, she has boobs, she&#8217;s a weirdo,&#8221; but if you&#8217;re the first girl to develop breasts in your class (or the last), you stand out &#8211; and it&#8217;s not an age where you want to stand out. So I think fashion becomes a way of asserting some control over that which you have no control &#8211; your appearance &#8211; and a way of &#8220;fitting in&#8221; even when you don&#8217;t feel like you do internally. Of course, this is also a time when teens are really starting to discover and assert their own identities, and there&#8217;s a lot of pressures about being (or merely appearing) too different.</p>
<p>I feel like the media has discovered that these fears can be turned to profitable advantage. Do we blame the artists who churn out new or recycled designs twice a year? Do we blame mags that try to create a digestible statement about them? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. But here&#8217;s something I DO know about these pressures and this constantly changing list of fashion: I think it is designed to get us to spend money. I used to work in a women&#8217;s chain boutique, and we changed our clothing every month. I paid attention and I started noticing things. Not only did the chain change its base every month from a cool-tone to a warm-tone (ie: January might be black with red and tan accents, but then February would be navy/blue/purple, March was always chocolate brown with bright pinks and peaches), necessitating the purchase of new basic suiting separates in order to pair them with the pretty blouses and print dresses (month-to-month the colours kind of clashed), but there was actually an annual pattern to the colour scheme. Knowing this in advance, I used to hit thrift stores to stay ahead of the curve (since, if we didn&#8217;t actually wear &#8220;the brand,&#8221; we had to look like we were) without purchasing this expensive stuff. I always felt bad for women who bought navy suits in Feb only to find that in March, they couldn&#8217;t find very many options for constructing outfits unless they bought a new suit in the right shade of chocolate brown. Granted, the clients had the budget for it and didn&#8217;t blink an eye, but I kept wondering, if these clothes hold up for so many years, why do you have to buy so many new pieces every month?</p>
<p>this is why I couldn&#8217;t do retail, long-term. I hated being a part of an industry that played on insecurity like this, and that convinced people to buy things they didn&#8217;t need. I think DO and DON&#8217;T lists function the same way. I often wonder, is there a connection between what is on the DO list and who advertises in the magazine? Is there a kick-back?</p>
<p>As for me, my only DON&#8217;T&#8217;s are DON&#8217;T buy a colour that makes you look sick, DON&#8217;T buy a silhouette that you are uncomfortable with, and DON&#8217;T buy it just because it&#8217;s on sale unless you&#8217;re actually going to enjoy wearing it, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rorosto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rorosto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these sorts of internal debates. It&#039;s the story of my life! Tuning in out of general interest&#039;s sake, then sort of wondering... is it poison for the mind, hearing all these things? Normally I don&#039;t listen to all of that nonsense and take it to heart, but when it&#039;s all around you all the time, you can&#039;t help but be swayed by it a bit. I always WANT to watch these things, read fashion mags, etc, but it&#039;s hard to find a source that works for ladies who want to get beyond all of that Cosmo &quot;What He Really Wants&quot; kinds of &quot;sources&quot;, if we can call them that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these sorts of internal debates. It&#8217;s the story of my life! Tuning in out of general interest&#8217;s sake, then sort of wondering&#8230; is it poison for the mind, hearing all these things? Normally I don&#8217;t listen to all of that nonsense and take it to heart, but when it&#8217;s all around you all the time, you can&#8217;t help but be swayed by it a bit. I always WANT to watch these things, read fashion mags, etc, but it&#8217;s hard to find a source that works for ladies who want to get beyond all of that Cosmo &#8220;What He Really Wants&#8221; kinds of &#8220;sources&#8221;, if we can call them that.</p>
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