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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://bitsandbobbins.com/2008/04/21/not-so-random-links-27/comment-page-1/#comment-47093</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughts on this. Here&#039;s a question though: I knit baby clothes for my friends kids, and usually gift something handmade at the shower. I was asked by three different moms/grandmoms over the course of two years to knit something for their family, and they&#039;ve paid me for the finished product. Is that in violation of a copyright? I am not a designer, I make absolutely no claims to be, and always include the pattern source (designer, book author and publisher information) on the tag.

Asking mostly because one of these &quot;clients&quot; really made me consider selling some of these professionally. Figured I&#039;d better do some research based on what I know about music copyrights. Scoured the one book that I get most of the patterns from, even the author&#039;s website. Couldn&#039;t find anything. Will look in another reliable book as soon as i can find it. :)

I&#039;m a few months late in replying, thanks for the post though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughts on this. Here&#8217;s a question though: I knit baby clothes for my friends kids, and usually gift something handmade at the shower. I was asked by three different moms/grandmoms over the course of two years to knit something for their family, and they&#8217;ve paid me for the finished product. Is that in violation of a copyright? I am not a designer, I make absolutely no claims to be, and always include the pattern source (designer, book author and publisher information) on the tag.</p>
<p>Asking mostly because one of these &#8220;clients&#8221; really made me consider selling some of these professionally. Figured I&#8217;d better do some research based on what I know about music copyrights. Scoured the one book that I get most of the patterns from, even the author&#8217;s website. Couldn&#8217;t find anything. Will look in another reliable book as soon as i can find it. <img src='http://bitsandbobbins.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a few months late in replying, thanks for the post though!</p>
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		<title>By: Naughty Secretary Club</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naughty Secretary Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey lady thanks so much for the linkage and for the interesting blog post that has got me to thinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey lady thanks so much for the linkage and for the interesting blog post that has got me to thinking!</p>
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		<title>By: hoyan</title>
		<link>http://bitsandbobbins.com/2008/04/21/not-so-random-links-27/comment-page-1/#comment-31941</link>
		<dc:creator>hoyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if I mentioned this before, and maybe you&#039;ve heard of it, but seeing as you&#039;re interested in quilts you might like to look at the work of Koos van den Akker- he was well known for his &#039;collage&#039; garments. Personally I adore his work, and not just because he comes from the Hague! 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.koosnewyork.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Koos New York&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if I mentioned this before, and maybe you&#8217;ve heard of it, but seeing as you&#8217;re interested in quilts you might like to look at the work of Koos van den Akker- he was well known for his &#8216;collage&#8217; garments. Personally I adore his work, and not just because he comes from the Hague! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.koosnewyork.com/" rel="nofollow">Koos New York</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://bitsandbobbins.com/2008/04/21/not-so-random-links-27/comment-page-1/#comment-31759</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to drop you a line to say how much I enjoy your posts, so thoughtful and thought-provoking and just plain INTERESTING. 

Also, that last outfit you posted, with the dip-dye dress? Perfection, as far as I can see. It&#039;s modern, striking, and suits you down to the ground. I know you&#039;re after lots of heated debate in response to your posts, but I hope you don&#039;t mind a little flattery instead, from a tired mind :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to drop you a line to say how much I enjoy your posts, so thoughtful and thought-provoking and just plain INTERESTING. </p>
<p>Also, that last outfit you posted, with the dip-dye dress? Perfection, as far as I can see. It&#8217;s modern, striking, and suits you down to the ground. I know you&#8217;re after lots of heated debate in response to your posts, but I hope you don&#8217;t mind a little flattery instead, from a tired mind <img src='http://bitsandbobbins.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sanna</title>
		<link>http://bitsandbobbins.com/2008/04/21/not-so-random-links-27/comment-page-1/#comment-31757</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tricia, yesterday I received a Blogging with a Purpose batch, and I would like to pass the batch on to you. Your amazing work with wardrobe_remix and your thought provoking blog posts have challenged me to see things differently. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tricia, yesterday I received a Blogging with a Purpose batch, and I would like to pass the batch on to you. Your amazing work with wardrobe_remix and your thought provoking blog posts have challenged me to see things differently. <img src='http://bitsandbobbins.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rachael/softspoken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael/softspoken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s also a book out which you may have heard of called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Year-Without-Made-China-Adventure/dp/0470116137/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1208972806&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; A Year Without &quot;Made in China&quot;: One Family&#039;s True Life Adventure in the Global Economy&lt;/a&gt;.  it passed over my desk while doing my day&#039;s work at the library and seemed an interesting read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s also a book out which you may have heard of called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Year-Without-Made-China-Adventure/dp/0470116137/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1208972806&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"> A Year Without &#8220;Made in China&#8221;: One Family&#8217;s True Life Adventure in the Global Economy</a>.  it passed over my desk while doing my day&#8217;s work at the library and seemed an interesting read.</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://bitsandbobbins.com/2008/04/21/not-so-random-links-27/comment-page-1/#comment-31703</link>
		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tricia: Ahh, okay, thank you for the info. Of course I would not advocate breaking copyright -- if it&#039;s explicitly stated in the copyright that it is for non-commercial use, then that should be honored. I guess my mistake was not realizing that most commercial patterns state that.

As a photographer, I always try to think of a photography analogy when talking about copyrights. My thoughts re: commercial patterns was that it&#039;s kind of like stock photography. As a photographer, you make your money by selling your photo to a stock photography agency. Then that agency licenses it out to anyone who wants to pay for it, and that person gets to use the photo (per the terms of the license) in commercial contexts, e.g. in an advertisement or as an illustration in a publication or website, etc. I was thinking patterns worked like that: by buying the pattern, you are licensed to make garments from that pattern, for commercial use or otherwise. But I hadn&#039;t read the fine print on any patterns&#039; licenses, so I stand corrected. To carry the analogy further: it would be a copyright violation for a person who bought a stock photo to then try to license the photo to other people -- I was thinking that the fashion design equivalent of that violation would be to photocopy or re-draw a pattern and try to resell it, claiming as one&#039;s own. That, or like Ashley Dayley did, claiming the design was her own at a fashion show-- that&#039;s really not okay.

Of course the design of the garment is a large part of why a consumer purchases it, and I didn&#039;t mean at all to diminish the original designer&#039;s role and rights. Just that, my impression was that the designer had received the money for their work when they had sold it as a commercial pattern (and perhaps they received royalties each time that pattern sells?). I definitely agree that a dressmaker should not claim herself as the &quot;designer&quot; of a garment if she made it using a commercial pattern!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tricia: Ahh, okay, thank you for the info. Of course I would not advocate breaking copyright &#8212; if it&#8217;s explicitly stated in the copyright that it is for non-commercial use, then that should be honored. I guess my mistake was not realizing that most commercial patterns state that.</p>
<p>As a photographer, I always try to think of a photography analogy when talking about copyrights. My thoughts re: commercial patterns was that it&#8217;s kind of like stock photography. As a photographer, you make your money by selling your photo to a stock photography agency. Then that agency licenses it out to anyone who wants to pay for it, and that person gets to use the photo (per the terms of the license) in commercial contexts, e.g. in an advertisement or as an illustration in a publication or website, etc. I was thinking patterns worked like that: by buying the pattern, you are licensed to make garments from that pattern, for commercial use or otherwise. But I hadn&#8217;t read the fine print on any patterns&#8217; licenses, so I stand corrected. To carry the analogy further: it would be a copyright violation for a person who bought a stock photo to then try to license the photo to other people &#8212; I was thinking that the fashion design equivalent of that violation would be to photocopy or re-draw a pattern and try to resell it, claiming as one&#8217;s own. That, or like Ashley Dayley did, claiming the design was her own at a fashion show&#8211; that&#8217;s really not okay.</p>
<p>Of course the design of the garment is a large part of why a consumer purchases it, and I didn&#8217;t mean at all to diminish the original designer&#8217;s role and rights. Just that, my impression was that the designer had received the money for their work when they had sold it as a commercial pattern (and perhaps they received royalties each time that pattern sells?). I definitely agree that a dressmaker should not claim herself as the &#8220;designer&#8221; of a garment if she made it using a commercial pattern!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, since we&#039;re all talking about China (and Tibet) right now, I thought I&#039;d send along a little link you might like... It&#039;s an interview with the dalai lama that was on CBC last week.

http://www.cbc.ca/mansbridge/

What made me think you might enjoy the discussion is mostly your comments about boycotting / not boycotting China.  They bring up this issue, and I figured it would be an automatic &quot;boycotting is the solution&quot; answer.  But the ever-so-at-peace dalai lama does not agree.  I feel that although he does not have the same connection with China as we Westerners do, he has a totally different perspective which is always interesting to hear.

Anyway, it is a long-ish interview if you have the time :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, since we&#8217;re all talking about China (and Tibet) right now, I thought I&#8217;d send along a little link you might like&#8230; It&#8217;s an interview with the dalai lama that was on CBC last week.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/mansbridge/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/mansbridge/</a></p>
<p>What made me think you might enjoy the discussion is mostly your comments about boycotting / not boycotting China.  They bring up this issue, and I figured it would be an automatic &#8220;boycotting is the solution&#8221; answer.  But the ever-so-at-peace dalai lama does not agree.  I feel that although he does not have the same connection with China as we Westerners do, he has a totally different perspective which is always interesting to hear.</p>
<p>Anyway, it is a long-ish interview if you have the time <img src='http://bitsandbobbins.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://bitsandbobbins.com/2008/04/21/not-so-random-links-27/comment-page-1/#comment-31696</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/05/table-of-contents

National Geographic has a fascinating issue out on China right now, lots of amazing pictures and stories!</description>
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<p>National Geographic has a fascinating issue out on China right now, lots of amazing pictures and stories!</p>
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		<title>By: emily august</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily august</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hee.  Thanks for das linkage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee.  Thanks for das linkage.</p>
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